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Bookend convos

    One pattern I found interesting about The Catcher in the Rye is how the story is "bookended" by Holden's conversations with influential teachers in his life. The two conversations are similar on the surface, but their drastic differences are the main indicators to Holden's character and growth throughout the story. These indications reveal what would probably be the best strategy for framing advice to Holden in a way that wouldn't cause him to dismiss you as another phony, and prove that The Catcher in the Rye is, in fact, a coming-of-age novel.

    The similarities between the two conversations are what set the background to display their striking differences. Both conversations take place between Holden and one of his teachers regarding concern for Holden's education and future. Both teachers touch on Holden's expulsion from Pencey and how Holden's future won't look promising unless he makes a stronger effort to do well in school. Beyond this, however, the conversations are quite different. 

    Holden's honesty is one of the most striking differences between the two conversations. In the conversation with Spencer, Holden's actual thoughts are completely different from what he really lets on to Spencer. His lack of engagement throughout the conversation is evident; the conversation could even be described as a one-way "lecture" from Spencer to Holden. Furthermore, Spencer is highly passive aggressive throughout the conversation and he clearly has no hope for Holden's future, as he expresses his concerns but doesn't provide Holden with solutions or guidance. Throughout the conversation, Holden nonchalantly accepts the dull future Spencer describes for him and ultimately only regrets his visit with Spencer because of how boring it was. In contrast, the conversation with Antolini was more of an honest back-and-forth talk between friends, in part because Antolini is much more understanding of Holden than Spencer is. Antolini believes strongly that Holden can make a better future for himself if he chooses to, and he provides Holden with advice on doing so. In a way, Holden also seems to feel more of an urge to prove that he cares somewhat about school when he actively denies Antolini's accusations of cutting class. The conversation leaves Holden actually considering and thinking about Antolini's words, indicating that the conversation was much more effective than that of Spencer and Holden. 

    Holden's loneliness and desperation at that point in the novel might have played some part in the effectiveness of the conversation, not to mention his preexisting respect for Antolini. Nonetheless, it's pretty clear that the nature of Antolini's conversation with Holden had a major role in the conversation's success and exhibited the best strategies of how to give advice to Holden. For example, like Antolini, I would talk to Holden as a friend and equal (rather than a superior) and try to be understanding. I would also make the conversation optimistic, to balance out Holden's negativity, and let him know that there's potential for him to act on his problems. 

    Moreover, the conversation with Antolini is the first point where Holden starts considering applying himself in school and thinking about his future, which indicates a significant jump in maturity. For this reason, I definitely wouldn't consider The Catcher in the Rye a failed coming of age novel. Even though his growth may seem subtle, it's still improvement. More conversations similar to the one with Antolini would probably get Holden closer to fully coming of age and being more accepting of society.

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  1. I agree with you, and this is something I also noticed and thought of as Holden possibly maturing. Holden forgets about his conversation with Spencer quite quickly, but it seems Mr. Antolini's conversation stuck with him. He even thought about it after leaving Mr. Antolini's house and kept the paper the teacher gave him. Given that Holden says that he "might" apply himself in school next year, it seems Mr. Antolini's conversation may have achieved its desired effect of making Holden work at school.

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  2. One thing that always strikes me about Holden's interaction with Spencer--and I don't think we really got at this in class--is that even as he rejects Spencer's advice and general world view, he "feels bad" for him, and doesn't want him to take it personally. Remember his note on his ridiculous history exam, where he assures Spencer that he shouldn't feel bad about flunking him? It's a strange way to reject a potential mentor's advice, but in a way it reflects a lot about Holden at the same time: he *does* think Spencer doesn't have anything new to tell him, and he does have some complaints about ways that Spencer has disappointed him. But he also seems to know (believe?) that Spencer really cares, and he truly doesn't want him to feel bad--it's not too far from how Holden feels guilty about how his mother will react, as he doesn't want to let her down and add to her stress/anxiety/grief/depression. For a character who often seems rather self-absorbed, he at times shows a remarkable sensitivity to other people.

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